A collection of new data, some quite iconoclastic, about the September 11th, 2001 Massacre
Is America sick?
Jay Jonas (Captain, Ladder Co 6 Department of New York), "And right around the three-hour mark, all of a sudden, a beam of sunshine hit the (6th floor) stairway. I looked and said, "Guys, there used to be 106 floors above us and now I'm seeing sunshine." They're like, "What?" I said, "There's nothing above us. That big building doesn't exist." Please scroll right down to read about the MOTHER of all "smoking guns" in respect of the shadow government's sci-fi-like hyper-weapons.
"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."- Marshall McLuhan
In total, 20,730 remains, many of them little more than slivers of bone and tissue, were found at Ground Zero, but only 291 bodies. After the most detailed and painstaking identification process in history, the Office of the City Medical Examiner (OCME) managed to match nearly 11,000 remains with 1,598 victims — a much higher success rate than first expected. http://www.voicesofsept11.org/dev/content.php?idtocitems=dnanews
From: "Fred Burks" <email@example.com >
Date: Monday, 8 January 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Powerful new information on 9/11 based on info from key insider David Shayler
Dear 9/11 friends and leaders,I found this information on 9/11 I received today to be most enlightening and powerful. I plan to send it out to my subscriber list of 3,000, but would love to hear any comments or feedback before doing so. I've added a comment at the end. I think we're in for an awesome year ahead!With very best wishes,Fred
----- Original Message -----From: BOB ROSETo: Bob RoseSent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:55 AMSubject: Was the 9/11 REAL Purpose A Failure ?
Is there more to the 9/11 saga that we may be overlooking ? If the account that was entered in the FORUM/ Message Board, Home Page of: http://www.truthquestonline.info , last month, is all it implies, then the original intent still exists. Therefore we could still have a similar event (or worse) on the horizon. For your convenience I will insert the account below. Judge for yourself. Bw, BobThe account:
Truth Quest Forum9/11 A FAILURE ?I have attended a talk by David Shayler, the MI5 agent turned whistleblower when he discovered that the UK government had funded a known Islamic terrorist group as part of a deal for them killing Gadaffi. They did were going to kill him by planting a bomb under his car. They did... but they got the wrong car and 11 innocent people died. This took place in the 1990s. They gave the main terrorist $40 000.
Well, he didn't understand WHY the UK and US government were funding this until he realised through inside information that in fact it was regime change. Not to get rid of Gadaffi, but because the incoming group would be radicals and would therefore justify the US invading Libya and... you guessed it, taking control of their oil as well as having one of the most strategic pieces of land in the Middle East on which to build their bases. The failure meant that Gadaffi survived and the invasion could not take place.But that's not the most amazing insight that Shayler has. Even more than this is how 911 was a failed operation. Failed? But it was perfect! The buildings came down!
Yes... but we didn't see the entire game. It's been staring us in the face all this time but it took a brilliant mind with inside information (access to the most classified of intelligence documents) to piece it together. Shayler really is that intelligent. Spend 5 minutes with him and you will see what I mean.
Well, the end game was this: Flight 93 was to land on the Whitehouse. You see, under US law at the time, if that happened, it would be martial law in the US and under those conditions, the entire 911 plot could have been completely tidied up, all the evidence buried. We would not be able to have the 911 truth movement today. Anyone claiming that it was an inside job would be so far out on the extremes of conspiracy theory that they would never be taken seriously and certainly must less of the material available today would have been available to the truth movement.
Now we KNOW that this was planned (martial law) because on the 10th Nov 2001 it had been put in the MSM! There were articles published to the American people about how martial law could be enacted in the event of the US government (Washington DC) being attacked directly. So the US population was actually PRIMED for that.
Not only that, but the anthrax attacks DID attack the US government, only it was too late then to declare martial law so Plan B didn't bail them out either. And worse, the anthrax was traced by the FBI to US laboratories where on a few select personnel had access to it so it was undeniably and inside job. Which is why the headlines claiming that the anthrax was Iraqi played enough to imprint the mantra in the population's minds, then the entire anthrax hoax was made to quietly and quickly disappear.
So what went wrong?
The shooting down of 93 was a renegade action by a true American hero officer and the pilot that did the deed. The order to shoot down WAS NOT GIVEN. I.e. The inaction was there to guarantee the Whitehouse would be hit. Instead of the lies in the movie "United 93", the real hero of 911 was indeed associated with flight 93 coming down but it was not some fictitious all American man in the street blued eyed boys. The real hero remains unknown. Anonymous. Denied. The real hero was the officer that saw the no-shoot as a NORAD botch and did his job and had that aircraft shot down.
The entire planet owes that man its thanks. I wonder if he even lived through the day? They may well have shot him on sight.
Now, I haven't researched this but I am willing to bet good money that if you go back in the news archives, you will find that NONE of the important people were in the Whitehouse on 911. You may even find Bush opponents WERE in the Whitehouse that day!
Not only that, but as Shayler points out, Jeb Bush jumped the gun. He declared martial law too soon in Florida. There was no reason for that declaration and it's one of those key facts that the 911 truth movement has missed. It's key fact for prosecuting as conspiracy to the murders, Jeb Bush as well as the usual suspects in the Administration. It's the smoking gun against Jeb Bush being an insider.
But the "failure" in NORAD and the other points of control, i.e. the things that were meant to allow 93 to hit the Whitehouse were undone by a quick thinking officer who ordered the plane to be taken down. 93 was, to use Shayler's term, a key failure in the plot. A cockup that, to quote Shayler "they simply didn't expect or plan for this".
When you realise this truth, suddenly many of the loose ends click into place. Suddenly, so much makes sense. So many of the Bush "incompetencies" are shown to be not incompetence, but quickstepping out a contingency. The inept neoCon scrambling and bumbling of the invasion is suddenly very clearly a group of well rehearsed, well disciplined, well planned people wrongfooted by the most unexpected of cockups.
Flight 93 is where 911 went wrong for them. And one of the reasons that the propaganda around that plane was in overdrive. United 93 the film, the stories of the heroes, the only "black box that survived"... all these were distractions. Very clever distractions. You see, by keeping the "was is shot down" debate going as an initial catch point for the sheep backed up by the "how come the mobile phones worked?" as the catch point for those not fooled by the first catch point, no-one got thinking about the actual flight itself and the key role it played. No-one has been thinking about the possibility that it was a monumental cockup that the plotters simply hadn't accounted for. No-one has been thinking "what if it had reached its target, what would have happened?". And that's clever human manipulation for you. That's really clever brains thinking at high speed to bail out of a catastrophe.
But 93 went badly wrong for the plotters. Because it gave that little window of opportunity for the truth movement to see the faults in the story, see the holes in the evidence and start to question the official line. Martial law was meant to ensure that no questions could be asked, no evidence could survive and no-one would have the time to ask because of what was meant to immediately follow. The sequence of events would have been so swift that we would be focussed now on the fallout of the WMD use that was almost certainly in the plan. 911 would be a minor footnote that no-one would be interested in by now.
Had 93 reached "mission complete". Had martial law been declared, complete control over the media, release of information and the cleanup (getting rid of the evidence) would have happened and bingo! The entire 911 plot would have played out and the world right now would have been a completely different place. Iran, Syria, Iraq, North Korea, Afghanistan probably would have had nuclear weapons used against them to simply "solve the problem". With the US government "wiped out", no-one would have either held the Bush crowd accountable nor have the ability to even if they tried.
Which explains another anomaly about the plot: How the neoCons so totally screwed up the invasions without an exit strategy. The visible evidence being the mess that Iraq is in with the US having its butt kicked.
See, they never needed an exit strategy because they were never going to invade the way that they were forced to. That was NOT the plan. The plan was to use the overwhelming force of American super weapons in quick, lethal blows that the world would have had to stand by and accept because the US government itself would have been directly attacked, possibly with key opponents to the WH wiped out as part of the deal. Who would stop the US? Indeed, who would even BLAME the US?
Their original plan was perfect. It was a good plan. I was a perfect plan.
There was no need to plant a passport. There was no need to explain 911. If you don't explain then there are no holes in the story because there simply is no story. Your cover is perfect. No 911 commission, no NIST scrambling to prove the impossible, no questions about WTC7. Nothing to attack the neoCon agenda with because no accountability given because under martial law, the US government would be unassailable.
And that also explains those massive FEMA detention camps that GLP was so hyped up about many years ago. We were all mystified as to why they were being built. Now it's clear! Even under martial law there would have been those who didn't agree with the neoCons. Those detention camps would have been filled with these dissidents.
Sit back and think of all the odd behaviour that has puzzled us about the BushCo. How they seem to have wrongfooted themselves all the time. And think about how things would have been different in 93 had hit its target. It all makes perfect sense.
Behind the scenes there must have been frantic redrawing of plans. Years and years of careful, step by step detail was trashed when that missile hit 93. And because of that, errors were made. And because of THAT, we have the truth movement and the very real chance to expose this hoax and nail the guilty party.
Which could be why Bush bought into Paraguay.
Also, look at where Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Bremer and all the other PNAC players were on the day. Look at their actions. In the light of what was EXPECTED to happen, it all makes sense. Perfect, perfect sense.
This is a startling revelation by Shayler and an absolute lynchpin in understanding 911 and what has followed. It explains so much, ties up so many loose ends and just fits the picture so well, even down to the reactions of the people involved, that it really is the only credible missing piece.
And more still, it's clear that the recycling deal must have been planned months before for the steel shipments from the 911 demolition. All that ran perfectly. But rather than it being a secret kept "for security reasons" away from any public knowledge for decades to come, maybe even centuries, it's now in the open. And one more item to point at the guilty parties with.
For me personally, it's the effectiveness of the psyops of 93 that gets me. How the diversion has worked so extremely well, How the realisation of how 911 was actually a massive cockup simply hasn't featured anywhere up until now.
That makes me shake my head in admiration for the brains that pulled it together. Real professionals. Nasty, evil, but so very clever.
Originally posted at: http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=317985&mpage=1&showdate=12/15/06
Comments from Fred: Almost everything here resonates for me. The one piece I think is missing is that even before 9/11, key parts of the military and intelligence services were aware to some extent of the terrible plans being made. I know this very well from my inside sources. Those groups were working very hard to change things and stop the plan that they knew was coming, but didn't have all the details or specific date. I would almost be willing to bet that it was those groups who were responsible for the shooting down of Flight 93. It's also very likely that the perpetrators had contingency plans should any one of the four planes fail to hit their target. Once this happened with 93, that particular contingency plan was put into effect, which is why there were so many reported calls, etc. from that plane, but from none of the others. I welcome your thoughts on all this.We're off to a great new year! Thanks for caring, and for all the hard work I know that everyone on this list is doing to build a brighter future for us all!With abundant gratitude, joy, and hope,FredDeeply committed to what's best for all of us and to personal & global transformation through love & empowerment.Explore these empowering websites managed by Fred and the PEERS team:
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From: Arhata Osho <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: February 21, 2007 11:02:05 AM PST
To: arhata osho <email@example.com>
Subject: HIGH LEVEL DISAGREEMENTS WITH 'OFFICIAL' VERSION OF 9-11 Bush...to Court for criminal trial
This Email courtesy of my friend Barbara of Crystalkit@aol.com Arhata
Officers from ALL the major branches of the US intelligence network are now on record indicting that 911 was an inside job. Testimony includes:
Air Force Intelligence
National Security Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
Office of the Secretary of Defense
Office of the State Attorney General
Office of the US Attorney General
Federal Prosecutors Office
Foreign Service Office
US State Department
US House of Reps.
Also, there are intelligence officer testimony from at least 10 countries, including Canada, Great Britain, France, Russia, Germany, Finland, Italy, Pakistan, Egypt, & Belgium.
Wayne Madsen – Former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer, specialist in electronic surveillance and security. Formerly assigned to the National Security Agency and the State Department. Currently, investigative journalist, nationally distributed columnist, and author. Senior Fellow, Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), a non-partisan privacy public advocacy group in Washington, DC. Frequent media commentator on terrorism and security matters. Author of Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa 1993-1999 (1999), co-author of America's Nightmare: The Presidency of George Bush II (2006), Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops & Brass Plates (2006), The Handbook of Personal Data Protection (1992).
- Speech 11/11/06 : "After five years of talking to many individuals in the intelligence community, in the military, foreign intelligence agencies, and a whole host of other people, people from the air traffic control community, the FAA, I came to the conclusion that after five years what we saw happen on that morning of September 11, 2001, was the result of a highly-compartmentalized covert operation to bring about a fascist coup in this country. ...
These people need to be brought to justice, if not by our own Congress, then by an international tribunal in the Hague, in the Netherlands. Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney should be sitting in the same dockets where Milosevic and the Croatia-Serbia war criminals sat." http://video.google.com
- Bio: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/aboutus.php ********************************************************************************************
Information then inspiration
One of our team summarized the following quotes from www.patriotsquestion911.com.
Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003 "I, as a member of the [9/11] Commission, cannot look any American in the eye... It is a national scandal... this White House wants to cover [9/11] up."
Senator Mark Dayton – Member, Senate Committee on Armed Services and Homeland Security "[NORAD] lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 Commission...the most gross incompetence and dereliction of responsibility and negligence"
Congressman Ron Paul - Vice Chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee "the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation"
Congressman Curt Weldon - "[9/11 Commission] there's something very sinister going on here... something desperately wrong... This involved what is right now the covering up of information that led to the deaths of 3,000 people"
Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney - Member of the House Armed Services Committee "the [9/11] Commission ran up against obstruction by the administration and non-cooperation from government agencies... the errors and omissions immediately jumped out at us"
Director of the FBI, Louis Freeh – "[9/11 Commission] findings--raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself"
Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis, Morgan Reynolds, PhD - "We can prove that the government’s story is false"
Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, PhD - "Distinguished national and international scientists and scholars present massive evidence that the 9/11 Commission Report is a hoax and that the 9/11 "terrorist attack" has been manipulated to serve a hegemonic agenda in the Middle East... We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less steel columned buildings, to "pancake" at free fall speed. Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false"
Assistant Secretary of Housing, Catherine Austin Fitts - "Regarding 9/11 "The official story could not possibly have happened... It’s not possible. It’s not operationally feasible... The Commission was a whitewash"
U.S. Army Intelligence officer, Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice, John Loftus - "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence"
Foreign Service Officer, George Kenney - " I cannot believe, much as I might like to, the standard account of 9/11"
Foreign Service Officer, J. Michael Springman - "Fifteen of the nineteen people who allegedly flew airplanes into buildings in the United States got their visas from the same CIA Consulate at Jeddah"
Deputy Attorney General, State of Pennsylvania, Philip J. Berg, Esquire - "The official story of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie"
Major General U.S. Army, Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, Albert Stubblebine - "I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon?"
Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps – Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Deputy Director of Field Operations for the U.S. Marine Corps Historical Center - "I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate"
Col. Robert Bowman, U.S. Air Force, Director of Advanced Space Programs, PhD Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering - "the official [9/11] story is impossible... There’s a cover up... high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened … highly placed individuals in the administration...Dick Cheney...the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush... is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder"
Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force, aircraft accident investigator - "I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident... The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view...with all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged... the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."
Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army - "Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "when you look at the damage, it was obviously a missile."
Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force, fighter pilot, commercial pilot flying 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 ’s. Had previously flown Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC - "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple...[Regarding Flight 77]"The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles... The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77"
Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force, Office of the Secretary of Defense, staff of the Director of the National Security Agency - "It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics. The collapses of the World Trade Center buildings clearly violate the laws of probability and physics...There was a dearth of visible debris on the relatively unmarked [Pentagon] lawn, where I stood only minutes after the impact. Beyond this strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld], who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a "missile"... I saw nothing of significance at the point of impact - no airplane metal or cargo debris was blowing on the lawn in front of the damaged building as smoke billowed from within the Pentagon... all of us staring at the Pentagon that morning were indeed looking for such debris, but what we expected to see was not evident...The same is true with regard to the kind of damage we expected. ... But I did not see this kind of damage. Rather, the facade had a rather small hole, no larger than 20 feet in diameter. Although this facade later collapsed, it remained standing for 30 or 40 minutes, with the roof line remaining relatively straight...The scene, in short, was not what I would have expected from a strike by a large jetliner. It was, however, exactly what one would expect if a missile had struck the Pentagon."
Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, Barbara Honegger, MS - "The US military, not al Qaeda, had the sustained access weeks before 9/11 to also plant controlled demolition charges throughout the superstructures of WTC 1 and WTC 2, and in WTC 7, which brought down all three buildings on 9/11...A US military plane, not one piloted by al Qaeda, performed the highly skilled, high−speed 270−degree dive towards the Pentagon that Air Traffic Controllers on 9/11 were sure was a military plane as they watched it on their screens. Only a military aircraft, not a civilian plane flown by al Qaeda, would have given off the "Friendly" signal needed to disable the Pentagon’s anti−aircraft missile batteries as it approached the building...Only the US military, not al Qaeda, had the ability to break all of its Standard Operating Procedures to paralyze its own emergency response system"
Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, U.S. Army, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer - "I knew from September 18, 2001, that the official story about 9/11 was false. ... [A]nomalies poured in rapidly: the hijackers' names appearing in none of the published flight passenger lists, BBC reports of stolen identities of the alleged hijackers or the alleged hijackers being found alive, the obvious demolitions of WTC 1 and 2...and WTC7...not hit by an airplane...the lack of identifiable Boeing 757 wreckage at the Pentagon"
Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army, Intelligence officer - "I view the 911 event ...as a matter that implies either...A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down or B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East"
Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief, U.S. Army Intelligence Officer, Raymond L. McGovern –"I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 report is a joke...just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did in exploiting 9/11...making a war of aggression on a country that he knew had nothing to do with 9/11...that’s certainly an impeachable offense...But compelling evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited."
National Intelligence Officer and Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, William Christison – "there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. … The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them...this all was totally an inside job… I have since decided that....at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen... The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes. … All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions... I think you almost have to look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a joke and not a serious piece of analysis at all... It's a monstrous crime"
U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer, case officer CIA. Robert David Steele – "I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others...This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism...I'm absolutely certain that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition and that as far as I'm concerned means that this case has not been properly investigated. There's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition"
CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations, Awarded Career Intelligence Medal, Robert Baer – Regarding the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government, "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it."
Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program, Coast Guard officer, Bogdan Dzakovic - "At worst, I think the 9/11 Commission Report is treasonous."
Minister of Justice, West Germany, Horst Ehmke, PhD - "Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service."
State Secretary, Federal Ministry of Defense, West Germany, Andreas von Buelow, PhD - ""The official story is so inadequate and far-fetched that there must be another one...This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry."
President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga – "[9/11] could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel."
General Leonid Ivashov, Chief of Staff, Russian armed forces, Ministry of Defense - "Only secret services and their current chiefs – or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations – have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation [9/11] of such magnitude...Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders."
Foreign Minister of Egypt, Mohamed Hassanein Heikal – "Bin Laden does not have the capabilities for an operation [9/11] of this magnitude. When I hear Bush talking about al-Qaida as if it was Nazi Germany or the communist party of the Soviet Union, I laugh because I know what is there. Bin Laden has been under surveillance for years: every telephone call was monitored and al-Qaida has been penetrated by American intelligence, Pakistani intelligence, Saudi intelligence, Egyptian intelligence. They could not have kept secret an operation that required such a degree of organisation and sophistication."
Chief of Staff, Pakistani Army, General Mirza Aslam Beg – "The information which is now coming up, goes to prove that involvement by the ‘rogue elements’ of the U.S. military and intelligence organization is getting more obvious. Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the knowhow and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise."
European Parliament, Committee on Security and Defense, Giulietto Chiesa - regarding 9-11 "Billions of people were given only one explanation....which is entirely false....everyone who dares to question it is treated as if he was a fool."
French Army intelligence and artillery officer, Col. Pierre-Henri Bunel, Expert in the effects of artillery weapons and explosives - Regarding Department of Defense photos of the Pentagon on 9/11 "Image of the impact on the Pentagon is very instructive as to the nature of the explosion. ... It corresponds to a detonation of an explosive with high energetic power. The explosion does not correspond to a deflagration of kerosene...suggests a single engine flying vehicle much smaller in size than an airliner...resembles the effects of anti-concrete hollow charges that I have been able to observe on a number of battlefields...lead me therefore to think that the detonation that struck the building was that of a high-powered hollow charge used to destroy hardened buildings and carried by an aerial vehicle, a missile."
Safety Engineer and Accident Analyst, National Safety Technology Authority, Finland, Heikki Kurttila, PhD – "Conclusion: The observed collapse time of WTC 7 was 6.5 seconds. That is only half a second longer than it would have taken for the top of the building to fall to the ground in a vacuum, and half a second shorter than the falling time of an apple when air resistance is taken into account. ... The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."
Counter-Terrorism Officer, MI5 (Britain), David Shayler – regarding 9-11 "The available evidence indicates that people in key positions in the FBI, the State Department, the CIA and so on were not loyal to the Constitution; that they saw an opportunity in plans laid down by genuine Islamic terrorists to carry out an operation that would shock the world and would therefore justify U.S. adventurism in the middle East, particularly in Afghanistan and Iraq."
Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Thomas H. Kean, Former Governor of New Jersey - "FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us...It was just so far from the truth."
Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Homeland Security Advisory Council - "we got started late; we had a very short time frame...we did not have enough money...We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail"
9/11 Commissioner, Timothy J. Roemer, PhD, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence - "that panel members so distrusted testimony from Pentagon officials that they referred their concerns to the Pentagon's inspector general...We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"
Senior Counsel, 9/11 Commission, John J. Farmer, Jr., Former Attorney General, NJ, Former Commissioner of the State Commission of Investigations - Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described...The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years"
February 3rd, 2007
I wanted to write today about a BBC TV program we watched last night called “Saving the Twin Towers”. I think it’s VERY important, because, although I’m no expert on the September 11 Massacre, I’ve seen most of the alternative media documentaries, etc., but there was material on this mainstream doco which was news to me, and seems to point VERY strongly to high-tech directed energy super-weapons.
You will recall that, some weeks ago, I directed you to this: http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/spire/The%20Strange%20Collapse%20of%20the%20Spire.htm
Naturally, this program was ostensibly official disinformation, but there was a lot more to it for those with a trained eye.
On this British program, I learned that when the 2nd tower (Nth) came down several firefighters were in the 6th floor “B” stairwell and they survived unhurt.(!) They were interviewed for the show. After the collapse, they waited “30 to 40 minutes” and then they climbed up out of that place – they said they eventually saw daylight above them – to find that there was nothing on top of them, and one of them reported (as has been done elsewhere) that – aside from papers and small bits of twisted steel – “there were no desks, no computers, no telephones”.
What was not directly reported was that there was also no sign of the 104 stories of skyscraper that should have buried them very deeply. I was stunned. I thought that – like the South Tower – there were no survivors of the Nth (2nd) tower collapse.
(Of course any mention of tower #7 was taboo, but I seem to remember that it went from 47 (4+7=11) stories to only a few after it was “pulled” in what appears to have been a much more conventional manner.)
A computer graphics representation of the official version of the collapse of #1 & #2 was very intriguing because it showed the sequential collapse of the floors (with no explanation of the free-fall speed, of course) but it also depicted the central structural steel core as remaining undamaged, as of course it would under those circumstances, and no explanation whatsoever for that was provided.
I guess most viewers didn’t notice that 104 stories of the Nth tower, not unlike the central “spire”, seems to have turned to dust which blew away on the morning breeze. Or more like it is they couldn’t even begin to accept that “impossible” nightmare. Any serious and diligent student of Tom Bearden knows better. www.cheniere.org
Perhaps you’ve seen this video already. Here’s the local blurb about it from Australia’s SBS-TV, followed by the little bits I could find out about it by searching the net.
Sunday, February 18th, 2007 08:30 pm SCIENCE - SAVING THE TWIN TOWERS
They were the biggest fires in American history, in the tallest buildings in the world. The fire-fighters who entered the Twin Towers on 11 September 2001 could only guess at what was happening almost 1000 feet above them. On that day, 343 New York firemen entered the buildings without knowing what awaited them, never to come back out alive. This documentary examines a new computer system devised by Jose Torero to monitor temperatures within burning buildings so that fire-fighters can be given warnings at critical points throughout which could alert them to evacuate and save their own lives. This documentary also examines how fire was responsible for the collapse of the Twin Towers through overheating and melting of insufficient structural pylons, and proposes ways in which skyscrapers could be designed and reinforced in the future to prevent similar collapses happening again. Torero argues that if the lessons of 9/11 aren't learnt from and pre-emptive measures implemented, then the safety of skyscrapers around the world could still be at risk. (From the UK, in English) PG CC WS
Here’s the URL for the production company:
And their (July ’06) press release:
(I can't comment on the below, which our slow line speed keeps us from seeing, but I found them here: http://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4789 )
Video clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThPTduiA5jI
Filmed on top of the rubble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9LW...related&search=
Video to remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K2hQrtnNDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87fy...s <br> <br> http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...onspiracy&hl=en
I hope this is some help to you in piecing together the puzzle, and the sooner we start on the tricky bits, the sooner we will recover from our collective denial.
Peace in wisdom,
Here are a few of the names of the men who were interviewed on that BBC doco.
All from the Fire Department of New York:
Peter Hayden (Deputy Chief, Division 1), Dan Nigro, (Chief of Operations)
Richard Picciotto, (Battalion Chief) , Jay Jonas, (Captain, Ladder Co 6), and fourteen un-named others climbed, unhurt and unburned, up out of the top of the sixth floor “B” stairwell of the collapsed North Tower, into a totally empty space, about 45 minutes after the collapse. There was no explanation as to what happened to the other 104 floors.
Dear fellow fact-finders,
I did some digging about the missing North Tower of the World Trade Center I mentioned in my above posting, and found something.
The below is a short excerpt from the long interview at http://archive.recordonline.com/adayinseptember/jonas.htm
Jay Jonas (Captain, Ladder Co 6 Department of New York), "And right around the three-hour mark, all of a sudden, a beam of sunshine hit the stairway. I looked and said, "Guys, there used to be 106 floors above us and now I'm seeing sunshine." They're like, "What?" I said, "There's nothing above us. That big building doesn't exist." . Tommy Falco leaves the stairway and then he comes back in. He pokes his head in and he says, "Hey, Cap, wait until you get a load of this." So I make my way up to the hole. I poke my head out and I couldn't believe what I saw. I couldn't believe it. The first thing I saw was that corner facade that was still standing. And I was looking at it. I said, "I can't believe this. This is unbelievable. . These are the biggest office buildings in the world and I didn't see one desk or one chair or one phone, nothing. The only thing you saw was steel, some reinforcing rods and this dust. That's all that was left. There was nothing that was recognizable, no carpets, nothing like that."
In German they have a saying, "Was kann nicht sein darf nicht sein", which means, "What cannot be is not permitted to be."
I hope everybody reading this can pass this information onto your 9/11 Truth Movement co-workers and bring their attention to www.cheniere.org which explains what happened technically. This does not negate the explosive charges and thermate, which was seemingly employed to add confusion to the "either/or" folks. (and realism for the demolitions)
"Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1923
(Older items from our opening pages)
(see: www.gaiaguys.net/ufology.htm for context)
NO HIJACKERS FOR 911?
This is a VERY interesting article laid out in slide format.
From the Sydney Morning Herald: Is America Sick?
Sydney Morning Herald
War on terrorism doomed, US warned
January 13th, 2004
Updated February 4th, 2004
A scathing report published by the Army War College criticises the US's handling of the "war on terrorism", accusing it of taking a detour into an unnecessary war in Iraq and pursuing an unrealistic quest against terrorism that may lead to US wars with nations posing no serious threat. ... as a result of those mistakes, the US Army is "near breaking point".
The Guardian - September 6, 2003
This war on terrorism is bogus
By Michael Meacher MP, U.K. Environment Minister from May 1997 to June 2003
The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination
"It is known that at least 11 countries provided advance warning to the US of the 9/11 attacks. "
The former US federal crimes prosecutor, John Loftus, has said: "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence."'
Sydney Morning Herald September 13th 2003
Australia was told: war will fuel terror
Intelligence given to Australia before the Iraq War warned that the terrorist threat would increase if military action was launched against Saddam Hussein, contradicting repeated assertions by the Prime Minister.
Sydney Morning Herald September 17th 2003
New doctrine: admission by stealth
In an interview on Sunday, Dick Cheney rolled back his prewar claim that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons.
Two days earlier, the Deputy Secretary of Defence, Paul Wolfowitz, had said he was mistaken when he claimed that "a great many" high-ranking lieutenants of the al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden, were plotting with remnants of Saddam's regime to kill Americans in Iraq.
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